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October 09, 2006

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Mike

Mendez...my curiosity is what is the "TRUTH"? It is hard to converge on TRUTH at any point in history... much less declare it. It has to arrive suddenly without disagreement for those who see, hear and touch it (metaphorically).

Plato believed in the Truth he dedicated his life to it... not many others have done that.

Looking back at the Gnostic Gospels their truth was that their was a God of this world and the true God above ... the faults and pain of this world were not the cause of "The God" but the God of this world... they were Christians much closer in time to Christ then we are and before Christianity and the monks and Church sanitized the "Word"? I would love to hear the truth. Allah is no exception, or Buddha, or Abraham or the God and Godess of our western culture? Wonderful prose but lacking in "The Truth"...unless you are willing to share with us? Please indulge yourself.

derF

The 'TRUTH', eh? I think that script was referring to the 'TRUTH' of the Project for the New American Century. Its only a guess but the Right certainly does seem to be busy elsewhere this week. I doubt that my note to Thomas could have had this affect.

Bev

Actually, derF, I bet your note to Thomas did have that effect.
Nice and quiet, huh? I bet genesplitter is happy. :-)

derF, I imagine you know about this, but just in case:

Vanity Fair Exclusive:
Now They Tell Us
Neo Culpa
As Iraq slips further into chaos, the war's neoconservative boosters have turned sharply on the Bush administration, charging that their grand designs have been undermined by White House incompetence. In a series of exclusive interviews, Richard Perle, Kenneth Adelman, David Frum, and others play the blame game with shocking frankness. Target No. 1: the president himself.
by David Rose VF.COM November 3, 2006

Mike

Finger pointing in Washington Bev is like penis waving on this site ... it exasperates the participants and innervates the observers who know the truth and impact of the jesture.

fcc

How about the statement "This administration". We should hear that even more in the coming months....

Gene


How about "This administration should be more agressive on this war"

Another great reason to institute our only real option at least for now in having a Republican president and a democratic house. It keeps the democrats from doing something stupid like just packing and leaving and as well forces the Republicans to be more agressive in the war.

Will’s Phoenix Observatory

“I am so afraid that I listen to you
Your sunglass protectors, they do that to you
Its their ways to detain
Its their ways to disgrace
Its their knee in your balls
And their fist in your face
Yes, and GOD BLESS the STATE
By whoever its made
Sir, I didn’t do nothin’
I was just coming home late.”

BAWDYSCOT

Gene,

This "war" is basically over. Iraq, unless something really strange happens, will break up into three parts and we will stay in country(probably in the western deserts somewhere)just to keep the Iranians from moving in. Unless we move to take out the Iranians(a bad move if there ever was one(you wanna take on Russia too))we will be in Iraq for a long, long time twiddling our thumbs because this dipshit of a President had no real plans, was bereft of good planners and had problems with the theory of unintended consequences(probably missed that class at Yale). The stopper in the genie's bottle(Iran, not Barbara Eden) was Sadaam and now he is gone. This mess was certainly not in this country's interest nor the world's. Oh well.

Mike

My greatest concern is Iran... and Turkey (as I have mentioned) if Turkey gets booted out of EU? My timeline is five to eight years... of probeing and crossing of swords...unless something intervenes. Otherwise, a divided Irag becomes an easy target with a huge amount of oil as bait. The Kurds become the target of Turkey and Southern Iraq the target of Iran... in one form of domination or another.

Turkey isn't in the EU and probably won't get in if France has anything to do with it.

BAWDYSCOT

The last post was mine.

Mike

Change ID's Bawdy? Turkey is in consideration for membership... and is not living up to the requirements the EU has ask them to... no they are not presently members... but only 6% or Turkey is European...according to the EU and 70m Muslims.. so the chances are slim...once Turkey falls out of that relationship it will have to show the other Islamic nations it is truely Muslim....

BAWDYSCOT

Unfortunately for them Iran has taken that mantle already.

A Touching Story

In 1986, Mkele Mbembe was on holiday in Kenya after graduating from Northwestern University. On a hike through the bush, he came across a
Young bull elephant standing with one leg raised in the air. The elephant seemed distressed, so Mbembe approached it very carefully. He got down on one knee and inspected the elephant's foot, and found a large piece of wood deeply embedded in it. As carefully and as gently as he could, Mbembe worked the wood out with his hunting knife, after which the elephant gingerly put down its foot. The elephant, as Mbembe recounted the story, turned to face him, and with a rather curious look on its face, stared at him intensely for several tense moments.

Mbembe stood frozen, thinking of nothing else but being trampled. Eventually the elephant trumpeted loudly, turned, and walked away in peace. Mbembe never forgot that elephant or the events of that day.

Twenty years later, Mbembe was walking through the Chicago Zoo with his teen aged son. As they approached the elephant enclosure, one of the
creatures turned and walked over to near where Mbembe and his son Tapu were standing. The large bull elephant stared directly at Mbembe, lifted its front foot off the ground, then put it down. The elephant did that several times Then trumpeted loudly, all the while staring at the man.

Remembering the encounter in 1986, Mbembe couldn't help wondering if this was the same elephant that he had told his son about. Mbembe summoned up his courage, climbed over the railing and made his way into the enclosure. He walked right up to the elephant and stared back in wonder.

The elephant trumpeted again, wrapped its trunk around both of Mbembe's legs and brutally slammed him against the railing, killing him instantly.

Probably wasn't the same elephant.

csm

Nice... although it is irr-elephant to the discussion at hand.

derF

I thought this might be more appropriately placed here. Though there isn't a wit of difference between corporate Republicans and corporate Democrates. The problem is the American perspective. Our friction with the rest of the world is the result of that construction.

'I see most postings are still going to 'a quarter of my life'. Noticably, it is the most radically right wing elements that insist on remaining there. As proof you might notice that the covert and ingrained racism of Don Imus is currently under discusion. That there is any doubt that 'nappy-headed hos' was a racist comment or that it followed a pattern of racism and sexism on Imus' show is unbelievable. Further, the fact that he still has subscribers underscores the paradigm corporate broadcasters wish to enforce.'

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