Humans are a Virus.

Agent Smith:

I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.  --The Matrix

The Guradian:

The study contains what its authors call "a stark warning" for the entire world. The wetlands, forests, savannahs, estuaries, coastal fisheries and other habitats that recycle air, water and nutrients for all living creatures are being irretrievably damaged. In effect, one species is now a hazard to the other 10 million or so on the planet, and to itself.

"Human activity is putting such a strain on the natural functions of Earth that the ability of the planet's ecosystems to sustain future generations can no longer be taken for granted," it says.

The report, prepared in Washington under the supervision of a board chaired by Robert Watson, the British-born chief scientist at the World Bank and a former scientific adviser to the White House, will be launched today at the Royal Society in London. It warns that:

· Because of human demand for food, fresh water, timber, fibre and fuel, more land has been claimed for agriculture in the last 60 years than in the 18th and 19th centuries combined.

The point here isn't that we're necessarily a virus, but that some asshole 10,000 years ago decided to rebel against nature.  We'll pay the price eventually.

Comments

[Anthony James Falez]

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___I have updated my previous posts and hopefully enhanced the clarity__

Note: you must read "Posted by: al | September 05, 2008 at 04:31 AM" to gain a better understanding of what I am about to write.

While I read through all the comments I seemed to be in accord with the majority until I reached the post by Al. His post is the most accurate overall. AT THE MOMENT, we DO share the same qualities of a virus, although you have to remember time is RELEVANT! Time is a unit of measurement, THOUGHT into existence by mankind, to determine change. My thoughts do slightly differ from Al's. I believe our own thoughts can be trusted, at least some of them, because of our ability to reason by comparing and reflecting. Furthermore, I would have to conclude that memory is one of our utmost valuable assets. Taking into mind the current state of our world and how fucked up it is (excuse my language) we have to assume we took a step in the "NOT RIGHT" direction, considering NOTHING is wrong, nor right, IT JUST IS, sometime (SOMEWHERE) ago. This could be ONE simple misstep, or a MILLION complex missteps compiled on top of each other, but we can be sure something is NOT RIGHT. First, let me clear up that KNOWLEDGE is an ACCUMULATION of ELABORATIONS branching from a SINGLE thought. Therefore almost all knowledge MUST BE DISCREDITED. For example, the telephone game (where you sit in a circle and whisper something in the ear to the person on your left. The message is almost guaranteed to be misinterpreted and misunderstood along the way.) Therefore knowledge is awareness and nothing more. SCIENCE is a great MISTAKE. Science IS the biggest and most praised RELIGION of all time. Science itself can be deemed a VIRUS. It expands, destroying all other religions (SYSTEMS OF BELIEF) with theories that prove them wrong. An additional problem is that science radiates immense appeal, for we do desire to understand one another and science is a language anybody can understand. Aside from this, we have been CONDITIONED to knowing only this way of life. We are accustomed to the way things are and change is hard. You must understand though, that sacrifices will always have to be made. Second, if we were to halt scientific study and technological advancements most people would view this as a negative event. They view our accomplishments as progress, which they are, yet they fail to realize we are progressing in a NOT RIGHT direction. Like knowledge, evolution is an ACCUMULATION of EXPERIENCES built upon one another. So, assuming we fell off course a long time ago, whenever that was, we must have been "advancing" in the NOT RIGHT direction since. Luckily we were given another EXTREMELY valuable asset: HOPE. Considering we will never have any idea whatsoever of when we actually sidestepped off course, we would have to take THOUSANDS of steps backwards to assure we have avoided whatever "DEVELOPMENT" that was NOT RIGHT. I am sure we agree that mankind is extremely stubborn. You cannot even justify how truly stubborn we are. An example is we tend to only believe what we can see. Knowing this, I can definitely guarantee nobody is willing to forfeit their hot showers and go back to native indian america, nor the cave man days, and that is completely reasonable. We have come too far. We feel we have come too far when in reality we havn't the slightest idea. That's alright though, because I have another solution, and there will ALWAYS be ANOTHER thought (SOLUTION) considering the FIRST and SOLE thought continues to exist. However, this all depends on the fact that time is NOT relevant, yet it blatantly is as we can remember that time is only a unit of measurement. Therefore, the FIRST and SOLE thought is ever present, yet can be destroyed (or LOST? at anytime.) My other solution is to pursue SPIRITUALITY AWARENESS. Opening up our minds to what we cannot see with the eye, and accepting the possibility of this, even though our natural tendency tells us not to. AWARENESS is KNOWLEDGE. We must do this or else we will eventually face the apocalypse in a non-religious sense.

Side Note: I wrote this with dear interest and concern for the world and its population. I have put a lot of thought into this as it has been a subject that has always interested me. I do not consider my thoughts any truer than yours or his. I eventually plan to write a book on this subject providing a solution to this world's madness.

[Anthony James Falez]

SORRY FOR THE MULTIPLE POSTS. IF THE BLOG OWNER COULD DELETE ALL OF MY PRIOR POSTS. THIS IS THE FINAL DRAFT:

Note: you must read "Posted by: al | September 05, 2008 at 04:31 AM" to gain a better understanding of what I am about to write.

While I read through all the comments I seemed to be in accord with the majority until I reached the post by Al. His post is the most accurate overall. AT THE MOMENT, we DO share the same qualities of a virus, although you have to remember time is RELEVANT! Time is a unit of measurement, THOUGHT into existence by mankind, to determine change. My thoughts do slightly differ from Al's. I believe our own thoughts can be trusted, at least some of them, because of our ability to reason by comparing and reflecting. Furthermore, I would have to conclude that memory is one of our utmost valuable assets. Taking into mind the current state of our world and how fucked up it is (excuse my language) we have to assume we took a step in the "NOT RIGHT" direction, considering NOTHING is wrong, nor right, IT JUST IS, sometime (SOMEWHERE) ago. This could be ONE simple misstep, or a MILLION complex missteps compiled on top of each other, but we can be sure something is NOT RIGHT. First, let me clear up that KNOWLEDGE is an ACCUMULATION of ELABORATIONS branching from a SINGLE thought. Therefore almost all knowledge MUST BE DISCREDITED. For example, the telephone game (where you sit in a circle and whisper something in the ear to the person on your left. The message is almost guaranteed to be misinterpreted and misunderstood along the way.) Therefore knowledge is awareness and nothing more. SCIENCE is a great MISTAKE. Science IS the biggest and most praised RELIGION of all time. Science itself can be deemed a VIRUS. It expands, destroying all other religions (SYSTEMS OF BELIEF) with theories that prove them wrong. An additional problem is that science radiates immense appeal, for we do desire to understand one another and science is a language anybody can understand. Aside from this, we have been CONDITIONED to knowing only this way of life. We are accustomed to the way things are and change is hard. You must understand though, that sacrifices will always have to be made. Second, if we were to halt scientific study and technological advancements most people would view this as a negative event. They view our accomplishments as progress, which they are, yet they fail to realize we are progressing in a NOT RIGHT direction. Like knowledge, evolution is an ACCUMULATION of EXPERIENCES built upon one another. So, assuming we fell off course A LONG TIME (or MANY EVENTS) ago, whenever that was, we must have been "advancing" in the NOT RIGHT direction since. Luckily, we were given another EXTREMELY valuable asset, HOPE. Hope never seems to fall out of view. Considering we will never have any idea whatsoever of when we actually sidestepped off course, we would have to take THOUSANDS of steps backwards to assure we have avoided whatever "DEVELOPMENT" that was NOT RIGHT. I am sure we agree that mankind is extremely stubborn. You cannot even justify how truly stubborn we are. An example is we tend to only believe what we can see. Knowing this, I can definitely guarantee nobody is willing to forfeit their hot showers and go back to Native Indian America, nor the Cave Man Days, and that is completely reasonable. We have come too far. We feel we have come too far when in reality we haven't the slightest idea. That's alright though, because we have another option, and there will ALWAYS be ANOTHER thought (OPTION/SOLUTION) considering the FIRST and SOLE thought continues to exist. However, this all depends on the fact that time is NOT relevant, yet it blatantly is as we remember that time is only a unit of measurement distinguishing change. Therefore, the FIRST and SOLE thought is ever present, yet can be destroyed (or LOST? at anytime.) The other option is to pursue SPIRITUALITY AWARENESS. Opening up our minds to what we cannot see with the eye, and accepting the possibility of this, even though our instinct tells us not to. AWARENESS is KNOWLEDGE. This is our only hope in truly advancing rather than facing an apocalypse in a non-religious sense because life is a vastly complex paradox. To further help explain my point of view I will borrow a few words from the book of "ao Te Ching: "When people see some things as beautiful, other things become ugly." We can conclude that there are ONLY TWO OPPOSING EXTREMES. So, we must either be advancing or declining. I'll let you figure out the rest..

Side Note: I wrote this with dear interest and concern for the world and its population. I have put a lot of thought into this as it has been a subject that has always interested me. I do not consider my thoughts any truer than yours or his. I eventually plan to write a book on this subject providing a solution to this world's madness.

[al]

I argee with many things Tony says. The way us humans grow and envole through different generations makes us as a race live forever. It really does fall under determinism. To realize and analyse past mistakes humans have made we just might be able to change our present sitiuation to manipulate a brighter future or a darker one.

Science is the way of a darker future. Imagine everyone believing the same relegion, science. Mix a few ideas of communism in with science and the world could be consumed. After humans label everything and give it scientific explanations then goverments can control everything. They will become gods as god are all knowing and all seeing (Big Brother is watching you)

Though I really dont want to sound like one of those conspiracy theories nuts

[aion6]

we are not the virus.....Hatered is the virus most humans become. A good strain of the virus hate also has many other side effects commonly known in the christians bible called the "7 deadly sins". Any of these "sins" can and will lead to contaminating an mass populated areas with a great hatered..

[Jesse]

On Anthony's note:
I tend to lean toward spiritually as our purpose also. But isn't spirituality nothing but a concept? Since we are conditioned to view things as good or bad we see spirituality as the ultimate good and above all other concepts. If spirituality was not good then why would we pursue it?
This is something I have been trying to look past. Any other perception on this would be appreciated. Thanks.

[provirus]

Hi everyone.First time on here.Delighted to see others who have so many questions about us as a species. As you can guess by user name - I do believe that us humans act as a virus does on its host. When I say 'virus' I refer to the mere simplicity of a viruses function - and that is to attach itself to a host,feed, multiply and as a result damage and destroy the host. It does not set out to destroy the host, that is not its goal, it is merely a consequence of its presence. That in effect is what us humans are doing to our host (the earth). We don't wake up every morning and think - right, how can I mess the world up today....it is the inevitable consequence of us being here. Forget all this scienctific/biological comparisons between us and a typical virus - we are not a typical virus - we are a 'supervirus'. We appear to act like a virus but unlike the common virus disply a range of other interesting traits... (consciousness, love and all that other mental chatter we have and I don't understand...IT MAKE US FEEL SPECIAL / UNIQUE & MOST NOTABLY SUPERIOR to the 'virus' as we know it. Things are relative...Yes we are superior to the common virus on this earth....but we may very well be hugely inferior to other living entities out there in that massive universe. As for us being a virus....if we could be classed as such we are seriously efficient!! Why?? Lets make things relative again. Got this from the book 'Fuck It, the spiritual guide ' by Parkin (seriously!!, look it up.). He explains how small we really are and how little time we have actually spent on the earth since its birth......say the earth has really been around for 4.5 billion yrs. This means that if the earth was quantitively around for 1 DAY (with the 'big bang' kicking off at midnight) us humans didn't arrive untill 11.58.58pm. Look at the damage we have done in just these 2 seconds!! The earth managed to remain in relative balance for 23hrs 59minutes and 58seconds - we have nearly fucked the place up in two seconds flat!! Pretty fast work when you look (relatively) how short a period we have been around. I understand the phrasing of all this is pretty poor but just wanted to share a thought with people who won't immediately think I need admitted! - another point.... Who is to say that being part of a virus is a bad thing. It was only last week in the paper that people with cancer are being purposely injected with particular viruses that attack cancerous cells and leave healthy normal cells alone! Virus is just a word that is associated with only causing pain and death. But now - it has the possibility to cure cancer in some patients. If we are the virus and the earth is our host cell....who can ever say for sure if this earth cell (most likely part of a larger living system) is one that is actually needed or is not cancerous itself. If it is - we are doing a great job. we are the 'healers' LOL. ! Im off to try and spread the virus with a beautiful lady - I hope. Adios. Take care everyone. Be back soon for more chat. Cheers

[david]

i think cancer is a better analogy

[Rene]

Jesse, you are so right on the mark, not only with your choice of words but your idea of the possibility that we could be a "good virus!" killing a beautiful cell, (in my eyes), but a nasty cancer in the larger body of the universe. But if we are a "Bad Virus" don't we have the capability of mutating into a virus than can co-exist symbiotically with it's host? That sounds like a lot of work to this cell in the body of our humanity. Virus or not, we are still connected to all parts of the univers as energy as string theory has proven, if I'm not mistaken. So even if we are a virus, in the bigger sceme it's all good either way.

[Rene]

I just realized, pro virus was the person I was reffing to in the post above. All of your thoughts have been a joy to read. Jesse, I think the reason we go toward spirituality as a species is that we tend to go toward those things that bring us joy. The strong passionate feelings of faith and believe stir our souls like nothing else out there, as has been my experience, so I keep my self in tune to what I feel is my "spiritual responsibility" like a knowing. But it's not something that needs to be preached. the virus will grow and advance at the speed that it does. I mean that with love in a good way! I just hope we've advanced enough to change the direction of how we treat our host, Mother Earth, who I love like my own mother. And then there is "Love". We really move toward that! And why shouldn't we? Thoughts on that?

[Lewis]

We are not a virus, but yet i agree with what most of you said about us not being mammals. i dont really think of us as animals anymore, i did acually think about this a while ago.

the reason we spread is the fact that we have become the domanent beings off this planet. its our natural instint to leanr new things and grow.
we as a rac have adapted and evolved so much.

so i say it again we are not a virus (In my opinion) We are just one huge coleny [Mind my spelling] :)

[Steven Amos]

Wow! I too have had this compelling thought that the human race is nothing more than a virus on the face of this truely once beautiful planet.
Humans rape every natural resource that the Earth has to offer and give literally nothing back to help sustain it apart from their personal waste and pollution.
The world population is spinning out of control and in so doing, the people living on this Earth are becoming faster, more competetive and far more wasteful! Along with all of this, humans are becoming even more violent towards each other simply because they are becoming increasingly fearful of their own mortality as they devour every resource and physical space this planet has left to offer.
Human Beings are the virus which will be the demise of this Earth along with themselves.
I see no forseeable answer to this problem because the minority of do gooders on this planet still beleive there is some sort of answer without resorting to natural culling processes. (ie: Large scale wars)
War has always been a process throughout history for Human kind to be kept under effective control. A virus will do everything in it's power to survive at all costs just as humans do. I have read articles where-by people exclaim that in years to come, people will need to euthenase those in our midst who serve no useful purpose or when they reach a certain age they will need to step forward to have their minds permenantly melded with a mega computer in an alternate reality or face another end.
With all this being said; we all know that some regular culling of the world's population is necessary but who amongst us that agrees with my statement would willingly go to his or her own death voluntarily for the betterment of the planet Earth and mankind in general?
May-be we need global sterelization for one or two centuries and labotomies to stop our perpetual quest for knowledge which serves no other purpose apart to give us more reason to abuse each other and our host planet.
If mankind could only see itself as a collective whole and it's destructive power over this beautiful Earth; then, and only then, will it realize it's inevitable end and try to reverse it! Ah! but alas, mankind throughout history has only ever had an epiphany in hindsight.
GOD save our souls! (If he exists at all?) or is God just a word of justification the human virus uses to admonish itself for its indiscretions against this dying planet?

[Noone]

Ok now my coment. All of u that think that humans are parasites, virus or what ever shit u think in your stupid head, please do a fawor to this world and blow your head of (we are viruses and parasites right?,.. So u are doing a right thing ). Take a look on humans past, our place now on this planet and try to think about future. And bla,bla,bla there are so many things to say about this, and even more to understand and for that my friends u need brain,...

[Cledus]

Yeah, noone has it fuckin' right on. Ya'll are a buncha braindead twaddle noggins.

[sasso]

Actually Chris, anyone who shirks the idea that humans are comparable to virus should be shot in the face. Are you so asinine that you do not realize how crippling the human race is to this planet and the animals that inhabit it?